Just an idea in testing, so far.

[AlisonW]

In November I was at a hack event - where people spend a weekend developing ideas for possibly-useful online tools for others to use - and started work on something which _might_ be useful for response groups. After the weekend though I put it away - until yesterday.

Part of that requires me to associate each county with a response group, yet there are a few countries which don't seem to appear on the 'Group Register' page. If anyone could assist in either letting me know which group is responsible for the counties below (or, indeed, whether there isn't one presently) I'd really appreciate it.

in Scotland: Banffshire, Berwickshire, Dumfriesshire, Kincardineshire, Kirkcudbrightshire, Orkney, Peeblesshire, Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Shetland, Wigtownshire

in England: North Humberside, South Humberside, Tyne & Wear

Many thanks.
Alison

[trevmales]

it does not work that way im afraid
a lot of the groups are in areas covered by the nhs trusts or resilience areas, this can cover several areas in one go, but groups can border each others patch as in herts and beds where its then shared and often a joint operation, not sure how your info works
but in Scotland its completely different again as its police Scotland and same for ambo service,

[AlisonW]

Thanks, Trev. Yes, I'm aware that it isn't 1:1, but I was just trying to get a rough relationship. Indeed, one of the issues is that Police & Ambulance services sometimes use county names which are no longer valid! (eg 'Avon')

[Simon Bentley]

Thanks, Trev. Yes, I'm aware that it isn't 1:1, but I was just trying to get a rough relationship. Indeed, one of the issues is that Police & Ambulance services sometimes use county names which are no longer valid! (eg 'Avon')

Just like in North Humberside and South Humberside which no longer exist. (though I don't think they were ever actually counties - the County of Yorkshire was never dissolved or what ever the term would be it just isn't used by local government anymore)

North Humberside is now part of East Riding of Yorkshire and is covered by Yorkshire 4x4R

South Humberside is now North and North east Lincolnshire (IIRC) and is covered by Lincolnshire 4x4R

Tyne & Wear is covered by 4x4R North East

There is a map which you could work all this out from of course http://www.4x4response.info/?pid=map





Except for a few exceptions each LRF/Police force will be covered by just one 4x4R group (LRF boundaries are set as the same as Police by the Civil Contingencies Act) however some 4x4R groups will cover more than one LRF/Constabulary.

[AlisonW]

Thanks Simon for this. Basically although I'd seen the map I wasn't sure it it took precedence over the list at http://www.4x4response.info/?pid=groupregister, especially as Suffolk (SR) appears on the map but not the list.

[Simon Bentley]

Map needs updating

Sadly Breckland Rover Rescue and Suffolk Rover Rescue no longer exist, but the area is covered by Norfolk and Suffolk 4x4R

[Warren Dukes]

And, just to confuse things slightly more...
Scotland is now covered by one Police Service, Fire and Rescue Service and one Ambulance Service. There are three Regional Resilience Partnerships, each broken down into Local Resilience Partnerships - there are three of these on our patch in Highland...

[Muttley]

Ditto for 4X4RNE we have 3 LRFs to cover - Northumbria (Tyne & Wear and Northumberland), Durham and Cleveland).

[DuncanS]

Yep we have 5 LRFs on our patch.